No.12
I've been rather impulsive lately. I recently started a medication that helps with a fairly mild condition that caused me to be lazy and tired all the time, but now I have too much energy for my lifestyle.
I'm starting a shitty job later this month and I sort of regret it. I just went for it because I was bored and will need money soon, but I could have waited for more options.
Also the friends I made back when I was in school made a shitty discord server, and I really hate it. I have nothing in common with them, so I antagonize them here and there. I don't want to be rude and leave though.
I've always thought I'd ultimately hate any kind of group like that, but really, they're just never communities I have anything in common with beyond very superficial similarities. I also just don't like people that talk too much or share too much publicly.
No.13
>they're just never communities I have anything in common with beyond very superficial similarities.
Same.
No.47
My friend is acting unhinged lately, I wish they'd see reason. It's gotten too tiring for me.
No.67
>>65I really miss the early 8chan days when it felt like imageboards had a bright future ahead of them.
No.70
>>67Pre-GG you mean. Except GG was the exodus that was needed for a viable alternative to 4chan. Kind of like how for a brief moment in time 4chon with Tinyboard was *the* /pol/ before /pol/ was brought back.
No.74
>>65The saddest part is when you keep tabs on a board and it eventually 404’s.
No.83
>>70I didn't even know about 8chan before the Exodus. When it was going on, I was actually taking a break from going to imageboards but still went on Encyclopedia Dramatica and heard about what was going on from there and had to check things out.
I wasn't around for /new/ either. I started regularly going to 4chan during the weird post-/new/, pre-/pol/ period when you'd load up /int/ and see scheming_jew.jpg posted everywhere due to all the displaced /new/ users coming in. /pol/ was fun when it first started, but I didn't like the direction it went in.
No.84
I didn't even start browsing imageboards until 2015 or so. I wasted so much time being a dumb kid lurking 4/b/, then 4/pol/, then 8/pol/ and so on. I regret that I couldn't just take it easy then as I do now.
Crazy to think it's been about 7 years at any rate. It feels both like I started yesterday and that I've always done this.
No.89
>>87>I'll have to make sure to enjoy it before the normans and zoomers flood back in.Yeah, things were pretty bad before the last site went down. Here's hoping we have some time before we have posts about how nice the site is, or what might as well be spam from kids that don't lurk.
>I have nothing much to vent about other than my lack of free time because of work but I'm getting used to it.I'm starting a job soon. Hopefully I take to it well. I've gotten very used to not doing anything.
No.99
after lurking imageboards for so long I've accepted that the only way to find a 'home' is to make one.
so now I'm in the process of making a board, but I'm also preparing to be disappointed when it's online
No.100
>>99That's cool. I think more people should make their own sites. What's it about?
No.108
>>100It seems the reason many don't is because the level of competence expected compared to corporate sites - at least that's my reason
the purpose of the imageboard is pseudoanonymous creative activity, like actually adding chapters to your life through self development.
I find that staying anonymous doesn't do too much for you, there's no continuity. most threads are replayed over and over again unless it's about current events, which is propaganda at best.
While anonymity is momentarily freeing, you are condemned to lower forms of discussion no matter how free you feel. if anything I find it impressive how powerful this amnesiac way of living is.
I could write essays about this topic, but the gist is that a pseudonymous imageboard may, just barely, be a positive influence. to encourage creation through continuity. I may be wrong though, experiment nevertheless
the verification of someone is determined by a file on a website they own. this way of verification encourages someone to create a website themselves.
i.e. you put your hash at
https://my.site/hash and this'll effectively verify your posts. you "login" by pasting the website url and the key, attached to each post. this'll allow multiple identities. the website you use to verify is attached to your post. debating on whether or not to allow names, to curtail attentionwhoring and instead focus on creative output
it's all a vague idea, but thought it worth a shot as it's a good excuse to do something
No.132
>>100The mistake was thinking people want to host their own sites when they don't. Not even the nerds do. How many featureful websites still work as they were intended to ten years after the fact?
No.136
>>132Agreed that many people do not want to host a site, since that takes effort, but the addictive qualities of consumerism ought to be treated as any other -ism, where it erodes the host it inhabits until it is a husk.
I would not measure the utility of a site by how long it is still standing, but rather the amount of lives it has influenced. Especially how it influences its creator
Although you may influence more lives by having a longer trek record, I think having a larger concern of the immediate people you can influence is the finer course of action, for the future will be undetermined and there's no reason to think the internet as it is today will stay the same
People may not want to make a website now, but by denying this and hoisting up a malignant decision complex of convenience above all else… one will eventually lose their humanity
No.137
>>133on the contrary I'm finding that there's less to discuss because the range of activities most engage in make them lose their humanity.
It's not that there's no quality of discussion, it's more like we're all becoming incapable of discussion, as one outsources everything, including their own opinions, in the name of convenience, to… eventually lose their humanity but at least have a lot of time to be nothing
I like the dramatic sound of "lose their humanity", but hopefully this post gives some support to my original use here
>>136 No.140
>>136Even people who do things do not necessarily feel like documenting them. Deleting spam is no fun. Constancy is a quality all its own especially on the ephemeral internet.
No.179
>>140yeah… the moderation issue hit me as soon as I deployed the imageboard I'm making.
Where can I find some comfy mods?
No.180
>>179I’ll mod for you. :^)
No.181
>>179Just do it yourself. Shouldn't be too difficult. Just be smart about advertising and you can avoid a good bit of moderating.
No.183
>>181I mean I'll try this out initially.
The current plan sure is to hopefully /never/ advertise.
I'm not looking for xtreme shitposting, and advertising usually gets you there
It's more like I would like people who want to take the idea and make it go somewhere, within the one principle of creation. [0]
I don't care if it ends up being just 2 posters as long as those two posters cultivate their reality; the objective is achieved that way
right now it serves my creation principle by learning a programming framework and getting comfortable hosting stuff, designing stuff.
But it doesn't necessarily have to be an imageboard; it can break the mold and turn into anything that sounds amusing
[0] There's only one principle, which is to encourage people to create stuff, that's all.
>>180>>182if you're cool enough I don't see an issue with this.
actually need to program the moderation commands first though lol
Or you can theorycraft on how to set up the site to where it doesn't need moderation :^)
Here is the background on it
>>108By attaching a website to posts, you'd hope that it'd help moderation a lot. And encourage people to create, since they have a website which signs their posts
Still, I wonder how one architects a positive culture. I know how to architect a shit culture, that's easy.
Positive ones, on the other hand… you're going against every cynic in the world by trying that
No.184
>>183>I'm not looking for xtreme shitposting, and advertising usually gets you thereYeah, that'd probably work fine. Advertising kind of sucks that way. Plus nobody likes it when people shill their website.
I think the whole signing posts with a website deal isn't terrible. It'll weed out plenty of children and a lot of shitposters. No matter how you cut it however, it will be a magnet for attention-whores. It seems like most people running websites are. Just have to learn how to manage them. That said, it could be very helpful if utilized well. It could be a helpful resource for people running sites, large or small. Of course, that might not entirely fit the scope of your site.
>Or you can theorycraft on how to set up the site to where it doesn't need moderation :^)Afaik, your system should eliminate most spam. Especially the bot spam. You may come across the odd board advertisement, but they usually aren't too persistent. Hopefully you don't get an autist that can't comprehend issues with his posts.
No.186
>>184>It'll weed out plenty of children and a lot of shitposters. No matter how you cut it however, it will be a magnet for attention-whores. I'm wondering whether or not to include an anonymous-only section since the barrier of entry is so high.
Perhaps
https://2kind.moe can be the anonymous "section" or sister site :~)
I wonder how you all would feel if I linked it on my site.
The "target audience" for this imageboard, if there was one, would be neocities users.
That's the only 'advertisement' exposure beyond talking about it here (since this place is comfy and niche enough): I'm blogging about making this site on my neocities account. Like the actual development process, although rather shoddily
It made sense to "integrate" with neocities because it's the quickest way to have 'your own' website, as well as cultivate a pseudonymous identity, but technically any site could work
No.188
>>186>I'm wondering whether or not to include an anonymous-only section since the barrier of entry is so high.I would just give a very simple guide on how to make a website through neocities. I think an anon board would just get used for shitposting. It's best to keep things small and expand once you have enough people to keep multiple boards active.
>I wonder how you all would feel if I linked it on my site.That depends on what kind of posters end up using your site.
No.192
>>191Yeah, I'm garbage at games too. Just try to have fun with it and not worry about other people. Maybe consider playing more casual multiplayer games and gamemodes. Co-op games are usually pretty good for that.
No.193
>>191This frustration resulted in me giving up videogames.
It's a confrontation with the self: it is clawing at you and asking you why do you play these things if there is no tangible A -> B involved.
I would say this sort of feeling is either the gateway out of the videogame matrix or a descent downward into pro hell.
So you begin to either significantly reduce the amount of playtime or you amp it up to 'go pro'.
Casual gaming is the way to go imo to blow off steam - being good at a videogame nowadays doesn't grant much advantage.
Such skill may prolong the fun for it'll shoo away that nagging feeling of timewaste and grant variation/possibility.
You begin to feel the fruits of your labor.
But after walking down all of the new possibilities, timewaste will still rear its ugly head.
For you discover your skill is rarely applicable to anywhere else other than the game.
That despite the possibilities, you are still constrained to the creators of the game.
Feels deceitful when you think about it long enough.
This is why it is always superior to work on a craft, such as drawing: where the possibilities derive from the limits of your imagination, not someone else's.
No.200
>>191It can be nice to feel becoming better at things, but once you feel an obligation to do something, it is not really a hobby anymore, at least in my opinion. A hobby is meant to be something that you enjoy and do only to enjoy it. There's nothing embarrassing or shameful about being bad at such a thing.
No.203
Fearmongering really gets my goat. I just want to take it easy. It feels like the world wants to take that away from everyone most of the time.
No.204
As I work more on this pseudoimageboard I'm coming to terms with the likelihood of it never being used.
But it's a great exercise and a curious venture and that's all there is to it.
It's the perfect entry by which one can figure out what it takes to create a full stack application and that's all I can ask for.
If anyone has any website idea that they want to develop for fun, would be interested in hearing.
It would have to be open source
>>203All the more reason to only browse here and forget everything else – at least I'm tempted to do this, where this place can be a shop in-between worlds before venturing into the unknown.
Honestly I've wasted almost two days buying into fearmongering, all for nothing. It's strangely addicting and depressing and I'm ashamed of myself for thinking that if I just refresh enough sites somehow it would change my life for the better
No.208
>>204I'm
>>180. If not for the website signature thing, I'd say the alternative to post deletion would be hiding/filtering. I hope you try to make it look aesthetically pleasing.
No.213
>>208Certainly will attempt to make it aesthetically pleasing.
Right now it's in plain pink & white, which will probably change.
You are welcome to follow along with the creation here
https://kazuhisa.neocities.org/elixir.html if you are interested.
This really is all an experiment.
https://youtu.be/HFskQSdoT5k No.216
I feel like I'm very close to having a meltdown. I hate going out in public, I hate talking to people about nothing, I hate being falsely accused, and I hate being unable to get peace and quiet.
I just want to mind my business and be left alone.
No.227
>>133I have a somewhat similar disposition to yours. Used to use 8Chan and the sites that followed it for years, but in recent times, I've found myself to be less willing to deal with people getting into internet slapfights and politics. For the former, I just don't find it productive or as entertaining as I used to. As for the latter, I don't want hear about how white supremacists are taking over the world or how racism is running rampant, neither do I want to hear about jewish world conquests or how certain groups are subhumans.
Maybe I'm becoming old? I don't know. What do you older anons think?
As for shitposting, it depends. If every thread got derailed by it and there's no "serious discussion", then I get bothered by it. A little here and there is fine for me.
>>219This. If you’re not able to laugh at it, it's best to avoid it. You just might not have the mindset for it. Kiwi Farms is a good example. Some people can go on there and have the time of their life, roasting and laughing at the documented crazies and weirdos. Others feel really uncomfortable about it.
No.230
>>227>Maybe I'm becoming old? I don't know. What do you older anons think?I think it's just because it takes a passive approach to reality.
Whether jewish world domination is coming or the fourth reich shall reign, what are you going to do about it?
This question is rarely explored.
People get all giddy, share all the messages, but there is nothing to derive from it other than vaguely "be prepared." It gets old.
No.235
>>233Manual labor is much more satisfying compared to office work and other less hands on jobs. It's great to take a step back and see what you've accomplished.
My family always pushed me toward medicine. I had some aptitude for it, but it isn't something I want to spend my life on. I'm sure it was disappointing when I ended up doing nothing at all.
For a while now, I've been aiming to be a diesel technician. Mechanics is really cool since it's a good blend of technical and physical work as well as providing you with a useful set of skills outside of a job. I think it'd be a good idea to look into different forms of skilled labor.
Just do something. I don't know what your situation is, but being a neet isn't great longterm most of the time. Especially if you're an unproductive person.
No.237
>>133I kind of feel the same way. Part of it because I've been on imageboards for long enough that it feels like the culture's moved on from the one I knew. Related to that is how I feel like I've seen the same slapfights 50 million times by now, and arguing with people just isn't that fun at this point. And despite how much imageboard users like to present themselves their boards as being havens of free thought, they're just as susceptible to groupthink as anywhere else (although in different and arguably less intolerable ways than what you'd get elsewhere).
>>219The problem is they're everywhere, and they constantly push their retarded social/political hobbyhorses in places they don't belong. I need to learn to quite being so reactive to them but don't know how to go about it.
No.238
>>227>neither do I want to hear about jewish world conquests or how certain groups are subhumans.Same. I actually agree with a lot of the points white nationalists make, but I've started to find them tiresome at the same time. Even when I agree with them, they just come across like they're beating a dead horse. Some of them also have a sour grapes mentality where they can't give someone of another race credit for doing something right. Even a full-blown neo-Nazi like Andrew Anglin has criticized that mentality.
Maybe a lot of them are people who are just discovering forbidden ideas, but I've reached the point where people like that just sound like broken records to me.
>Maybe I'm becoming old? I don't know. What do you older anons think?That's certainly the case for me.
>This. If you’re not able to laugh at it, it's best to avoid it. You just might not have the mindset for it. Kiwi Farms is a good example. Some people can go on there and have the time of their life, roasting and laughing at the documented crazies and weirdos. Others feel really uncomfortable about it.I actually do read Kiwi Farms and have been interested in lolcows since before Chris-Chan went tomgirl. I don't really find most of the current "cows" that have threads funny or interesting, unlike a lot of the old lolcows. A lot of the people there also just seem to think anyone they don't like is a lolcow.
No.239
>>230I've come to the conclusion that there's really nothing that can be done for most ordinary proles and that it's better to try and weather the storm with like-minded people if possible and try and learn useful skills. Political activism seems to me to be a waste of time unless your side is the one holding the reins of power or at least has a shot at gaining access to them.
>>233If you've got the skills to make it work, maybe she'd change her mind once you started bringing home some money. College really isn't a safe bet the way it used to be, and not everyone's cut out for desk jobs.
No.260
I took my grandmother out today to visit a thrift store, the pharmacy, and to a restaurant. It was a bit of a pain and took a long while, but I'm glad to spend time with her. She's pretty old, and it's sad to think that she doesn't have much time left.
No.273
>>240The thing that provoked my post was watching videos completely unrelated to politics and having people feel the need to bring up their MSM-regurgitated opinions and treat them as indisputable facts. It's gotten to the point where when I hear something like that, I just shut the video off. I wish I could figure out how not to get things like that stuck in my craw, but it gets tiresome really fast.
Outside of this board and a few webring sites, I'd like to try and cut out most of the current Internet out of my life as much as I can. I've been thinking about going over to Urbit. People seem a lot more levelheaded on there, and they've got a bunch of public boards listed. The activity is slow right now due to being such a new platform, but I'm used to that anyway. Maybe I'd even get a Raspberry Pi and host a board or something.
No.274
I wake up late and am active during the night until sunrise. It really sucks because I don't have many things to do, and my friends are all asleep. If I play some multiplayer games, I'll end up with a bunch of Russians. Not that I dislike Russians, it's just that they speak Russian.
I just want to have someone to bother or play games with.
No.281
>>230>People get all giddy, share all the messages, but there is nothing to derive from it other than vaguely "be prepared." It gets old.Yeah. In addition, I've grown numb to all the sjws and anti-sjws that constantly complain about how their favorite series or game has been taken over by fascists or communists. It's easier than ever to create stories and videogames, and share them with the world at large. In the case of stories, they could just download something like LibreOffice to write, and in the case of games, they could download Unity, Unreal, Godot, etc. They can make their own franchises with blackjack and optional hookers, but they prefer to screech at each other.
>>238>That's certainly the case for me.On the brightside, us geezers could put more time into better things. Play a game, watch a movie, learn a language- things that you can enjoy or help you out in the future.
>I actually do read Kiwi Farms and have been interested in lolcows since before Chris-Chan went tomgirl.See, you got the mindset for it.
>A lot of the people there also just seem to think anyone they don't like is a lolcow.I can see that to some extent.
>>260That's nice of you, anon. Just remember, even if you think what you're doing isn't enough or worth it, every little bit counts. Don't beat yourself up.
No.283
>>281>Yeah. In addition, I've grown numb to all the sjws and anti-sjws that constantly complain about how their favorite series or game has been taken over by fascists or communists. It's easier than ever to create stories and videogames, and share them with the world at large. In the case of stories, they could just download something like LibreOffice to write, and in the case of games, they could download Unity, Unreal, Godot, etc. They can make their own franchises with blackjack and optional hookers, but they prefer to screech at each other.None of that really affects me since I don't really enjoy modern media anyway. I'd rather keep going with the old stuff I enjoy and keep discovering more of it. People are also coming up with improvements and new twists on old technology all the time, like with FPGAs, source ports, and open source projects for video games.
I'm not a huge Star Wars fan, but why should I care about new movies that I wouldn't like anyway being "woke" when people are restoring unaltered film prints of the original trilogy that I can actually appreciate and putting them online?
>On the brightside, us geezers could put more time into better things. Play a game, watch a movie, learn a language- things that you can enjoy or help you out in the future.I feel like I don't even have the time for most hobbies anymore, but I do have plenty of things to keep me occupied nowadays.
No.284
>See, you got the mindset for it.
It depends. Foolishness doesn't make me laugh necessarily like it does for a lot of them, but some of the old lolcows like Chris-Chan I do find amusing. I think a lot of my interest in lolcows just comes from being interested in abnormal psychology.
A lot of the SJW types that places like Kiwi Farms cover now just piss me off more than make me laugh. I miss people like the Danish Mylar balloon fetishist Sammy or Timbox who used to come shitpost on /cow/.
No.288
>>284It's clear that KF and most modern "lol look at this funny weirdo" communities have shifted from laughing at weird people who are genuinely interesting to finding clones of people that have things they feel the need to be morally outraged by.
Somewhere along the ride they moved on from lulz and joined culture wars. Boring.
No.312
>>273I have been cutting the Internet out of my life bit for bit since years, I just can't stand what is has become. Honestly I don't even know anymore where to go online. Now and then I visit small little boards like this, but that's it. I yearn for more, but I don't find anything fitting. The sites I stumble upon are either dead, very slow or trash. A lot of those sites I used in the past are gone too… Maybe I am doing something wrong while searching for new stuff, but seeing post like yours confirm my fear that there simply is almost nothing left.
No.323
>>288Agreed completely. Why the hell does Donald Trump have a thread on Kiwi Farms? Someone saying things you disagree with doesn't make them a lolcow. Being a repulsive person doesn't necessarily either, yet Zoe Quinn also has a thread. It reminds me of the way people seem to enjoy getting outraged over whatever stupid thing AOC said instead of just moving on.
I miss the old days of E.D. and boards like 789chan when things were mostly about having fun instead of crusading against "bigotry" or "degeneracy." That stuff existed then too, although the culture war stuff wasn't as in your face. People used to A-Log Chris-Chan for being "racist" and "homophobic" and think those were justifiable reasons to ruin his life. The trolling had funny results, but in retrospect a lot of it went too far.
>>312>Maybe I am doing something wrong while searching for new stuff, but seeing post like yours confirm my fear that there simply is almost nothing left.I think there are still a few small places left, but they're increasingly hard to find with how intentionally crappy search engines have gotten. That's why I plan on looking elsewhere from the surface Internet in addition to the webring boards.
No.331
>>273In my case hate it when people drag in politics and controversies where they don't belong in general. For example, I saw this video where this guy satirized a kind of bum- the kind that tries out get rich quick schemes and always seems to know a guy. Thinking it was funny, I shared this video in a server I was in and some guy just starts talking about George Soros in relation to it. Another time, I was out with my dad helping him get some things, and this one random woman started sperging about Trump.
>>283>I feel like I don't even have the time for most hobbies anymore, but I do have plenty of things to keep me occupied nowadays.Keep on keeping on, anon.
>>284>I think a lot of my interest in lolcows just comes from being interested in abnormal psychology.Did you think of becoming a psychologist? Either way, have you ever thought about becoming a writer or writing stories? I think you could make for a great storyteller with that kind of interest.
No.334
>>331>In my case hate it when people drag in politics and controversies where they don't belong in general. For example, I saw this video where this guy satirized a kind of bum- the kind that tries out get rich quick schemes and always seems to know a guy. Thinking it was funny, I shared this video in a server I was in and some guy just starts talking about George Soros in relation to it. Another time, I was out with my dad helping him get some things, and this one random woman started sperging about Trump.I know what you mean. If some of the hardcore /pol/acks had their way, I couldn't watch old Three Stooges or Marx Brothers comedies because something something Jews. Am I not supposed to give someone credit just because they're part of a certain group? I can't stand Sacha Baron Cohen as a person, but I still find his old material hilarious in spite of him pushing an agenda.
I'd like to know what the endgame of people getting riled up stale culture war topics is. What practical actions do they think they can take to further their goals? "Redpilling" people doesn't matter all that much if there's nothing that can be realistically done. The mindset reminds me of pic related.
>Did you think of becoming a psychologist? Either way, have you ever thought about becoming a writer or writing stories? I think you could make for a great storyteller with that kind of interest.My interest doesn't really go deep enough for that, and I'm not willing to get credentialed. I did take a college psychology course once, but it's not like I remember all that much of it either. I don't really have any insight into anything or any passion for writing. I'm just interested in observing weird or eccentric people.
No.335
What the hell happened to ota? I figure it wasn't always as it is now. Seems like some discord-kiddies murdered it. I thought bunbunmaru was sad…
It doesn't make much of a difference to me, but it's sad to think those sites had their own communities.
I know there are spiritual successors, but somehow I doubt there is much overlap.
No.378
>>377Ironically it's like people are being dishonest and honest at the same time. It's like there is no room for either honesty or dishonesty anymore. I either put on a persona or I just go completely honest. There is no place for some understanding with humor, I just don't see myself having fun with the internet.
The internet became serious business. We started believing that we can change shit, we never wondered if it is for the better, and as we did, others took notice and started treating the internet even more seriously. If anything, everything that we do is actually treated as serious politics.
This is not what imageboards should be, where are the times when we just did shit because it was fucking funny? And yeah some of those things had to do with politics, but the truth is, they were never about politics. We did dumb shit because it was fun or funny, and we were controversial because it was fun. There were other things with it but it was secondary.
Politics were a mistake. The retarded fucking idea of following some greater ideals that fags from different boards had was a mistake.
No.380
>It's all just escapism in the end
I've found that to be so very true. When I'm forced to interact with people who sperg out about politics IRL, I started doing this thing where I'd let them rant and then take the conversation from the macro to the micro and talk about analogous local happenings. It was partly an intentional experiment to see how that sort of IRL political sperg (the Soros did it/Trump did it type) might react. Oddly enough, a lot of them would clam up not wanting to admit that they had these big picture concerns handed to them by the media, but had no idea who their local mayor even was or what was happening down the street from them. Sometimes we could then pivot and move onto other topics and re-relate like human beings and not perpetual pawns on a chess board.
>They by nature encompass more and more things same as religion
It's true. Those sorts that I can get stuck interacting with IRL use the grand global or national political narratives as some sort of way to define themselves and grasp for meaning, yet have no involvement with the things they like to rant about. I don't even bother agreeing or disagreeing with them anymore, but just mention something local and see if they actually engage or their eyes just glaze over because real life doesn't feed into the identity they want in some grand historical narrative that they don't even actively participate in.
>politics destroying imageboards
No doubt glow in the dark operators see internet counter-culture as a threat that they either want to co-opt or destroy. We have to stay fast on our feet to keep building and seeking out the comfy places where we can have free discourse and, dare I say, a bit of fun? The LARPing is so tiresome.
No.390
Don't let other people spoil your fun friends. It's okay to be a retard.
Don't let the normalfags take the fun out of imageboards for you.
It's okay to have fun.
No.391
I continue to retreat more and more to imageboards as time goes on. To be quite frank, I have no interest in anything the average person does. All the people I've met, they'd give me a funny face for the things I like. They focus on details I care about, and vice versa.
I've found no like minded people myself. Either they're pretty average, or they're obnoxious memers.
I wonder if that makes me eccentric and weird.
Of course, I don't really mind right now. I'm happy about the freedom I have due to the fact that I have nobody to please, nor standards for living. I can do anything I want to, but I still prefer to do right by everyone.
Even then, I can be kind to anyone without any drawbacks, because I can easily disregard the unkind :D
No.392
>>391What are you interested in, anon?
And should we bring back the making friends thread?
No.395
>>392Eh, I don't want to share because I'm interested in a whole lot, but still pretty clueless about everything. Sounds like bullshit, I know, but I don't like to be made out to be a fool.
>And should we bring back the making friends thread?No. That would hurt /kind/. I'd prefer that people make threads on /kind/ if they want to talk about something other than what's provided here. I REALLY don't want posters on /kind/ talking elsewhere and killing the board.
No.415
Bomb shelters aint comfy
And comf. board still hasn't been fixed
No.421
>>420Not much to be done about that. The most one could hope for is some new users, but that would come with it's own problems.
You could try making a thread. That might spur a little activity.
No.422
>>421not talking about userbase, mostly about the site's shutdowns, domain changes and all that fluff
i am ok with small places, small userbases, as long as anons interact with each other
No.423
>>422Oh, I see. Here's hoping things will work out fine this time.
Still, I'll take shutdowns and domain changes over /kind/ dying.
No.431
>>424I don't really have any reason. I don't have any troubles though. I just contentedly take it easy from day to day.
At worst, I get a little lonely. It's a little better than dealing with people though. That gets to be a bit depressing for me.
No.432
>>424What do you mean you have nothing anon? Surely you have yourself, and the ability to learn, use the internet, or go places, right? That's something, and you have some anons here too, which you can talk to.
No.440
I had an overseas company make me a guitar, and I'm pissy because it didn't turn out the way I wanted it. I'm lucky to have a lot of disposable income and know it sounds whiny, but I still feel like I wasted my money considering it's not 100% how I wanted. I hope I can learn to live with it and deal with my First World problems.
>>424Because of my family and that I think I was born into this world for a reason.
No.442
>>424What keeps me going, deep, deep down, is spite.
This spite bloomed into an unapologetic constant positivity that would feel nauseating depending on how you are.
But I feel as though there are a bunch of actors out here in our world trying to make us want to die, and I refuse to let them in my head.
If Satan is the morning star, than I will rise above – my light will eclipse whatever that morning star beams out.
gotta get the good ending of super mario sunshine
Paradise is a chain of thoughts away, no more goo and gunk or any impish thieves taking my joy
shake your fists toward the sky and SCREAM :~)
No.509
>>432It's gonna be two months since I broke up with someone and I can't fucking get over it. Every single moment i am alone i start tearing up. I don't think il ever find someone like her again. I have no reason to live without someone next to me. I used to be able to live like that after being 23 years alone, but when she came into my life through discord everything changed. Now i can't hold myself over the idea of sleeping in my bed alone for the rest of my life, i want someone to hold me in her arms and tell me everything is going to be ok while I cry endlessly over her shoulder.
I don't want to live, i can't live. Nothing is possible in my daily life without being interrupted by these thoughts. I just woke up, but i have been crying since I opened my eyes.
I don't want to live like this.
No.512
>>509I suppose the only thing worth meditating on is that, after the first hug, second cuddle, third night, life will march on.
You would get used to the baseline of having someone else around.
So, in a strange way, the amount of pain you're going through is agnostic to the event.
It is your very reaction to things that you have to change, for even if you had a perfect love life, you will be in tears over other parts of reality.
It's a great opportunity to grow.
things such as
- defining self worth from self only, self actions
- contemplating who you want around wisely – you don't really want just "someone"
- figure out where you're going to go, because any relationship without goals is dead out of water
- try to move your perception out of your current, jump into the currents you once had
It's disimpassioned thought, but it's all I can offer.
You will figure it out as long as you persist, good luck
No.543
Guy that posted madoka, still here? You can talk itt about stuff if you want.
No.588
existing is too much effort, and there's nothing here anyway.
might just go die.
No.589
>>588Please don’t die just because things are momentarily bleak, or it’s a struggle to get by lately. You can find happiness at another point in time, it’s possible. Don’t give up anon.
No.590
>>589well maybe if mr anhedonia decides to randomly vanish
No.591
Anime IBs only exist to post about seasonal shows with the same lackluster energy as a shitty streamers livechat. What's the point? Anime communities used to be for sharing information on all kinds of stuff and talking about rare shows we'd discovered, but now everyone knows about everything and there's nothing to say. Sorry but I really don't need to see your unedited screenshot of the show with the least genuine sounding text I've ever read. Feels like everyone is posting through a thick filter these days, like we're trying to hide our powerlevels not from normals but from each other.
Being an adult on the internet sucks.
No.593
>>592I don't really get the need to be cool and hip on an imageboard. It seems redundant. I suppose it is just normalfags.
Personally, I don't understand how so many people are satisfied just chasing trends. I'd rather find things I enjoy on a deeper level.
Just don't forget that you're not alone, where ever you may be.
No.597
I'm pretty tired of doing nothing all day. I might try and get a job soon.
No.598
For a long time I felt like the newest of the new. Now I see posts and I don't really understand them. They just seem stupid.
It's strange to think I'm not really that new. Or rather, from another generation of users. Even stranger is, I think most of these new people are about my age.
Seven years ago, I'd have never imagined things as they are now. I'm unsure if that's a good or bad thing.
No.600
Time really flies fast for me, now that I'm working 45 to 50 hours every week. Too fast, I think I'm going to become old before I know it. The last year was like a blink of my eyes, so much so that I'm still in the trickle down of ideas floating around in my thoughts from last April. Normally it takes about a 3 month period, which means time is moving four times as fast for me. At that rate, the previous 6 years which felt like a timewarp to me are comparable to the next 20-30. And I already moved so slowly to make a decision or do anything. I probably have less than a third of my time as experienced left. And the worst part is how quickly just the little things that make me feel comfortable like communities that appeal to me will disappear, change, and I'll be left in the dust wondering where everyone went and why it changed to be so unrecognizable. I wanted to be immortal before, but now I think I just want to get away from everything. The world changes too quickly now.
No.630
>>629I was 19 when I discovered them I think
I was on forums before that, from when I was 16 or so
But why does that matter?
I'm against wireless electronics which use microwaves, so I'm venting a bit about that now. The effects of frequencies and strength of the electric power output haven't been tested well enough. I think there's way too much of that stuff. Luckily it may be countered by grounding/earthing, but most don't know about either the hazards or what to do about it. Its kinda like with how the Romans were drinking wine from lead containers. They develop various ailments and become demented. Then you have all these people in leadership positions who are demented or deranged, leading to heaps of issues. Its not just the electromagnetic interference but also the way people live, what they eat and the drugs they take. Its also the media which gives certain impressions and people assume too much. That's what's off with the modern world from my point of view.
No.631
>>629What difference does it make? I think I was 14 when I started, but you'd never know that if I didn't say so.
It's a pointless detail. Age isn't that significant.
>>630>Its not just the electromagnetic interference but also the way people live, what they eat and the drugs they take.I figure a lot of stuff we consume and practice is horrible for us. Even in the past 50 years, standards for things have changed so much. New things are introduced without long-term testing because from what we currently know, they shouldn't be harmful.
I think consumers have too much faith in products. People buy things or say, choose some fad diet without much thought to it.
I think it's the thought that we're a highly advanced society. That our scientists already know pretty much everything.
In 20 years though? There will still be people watching television, and they will still see all of those class-action lawsuit commercials. I don't think that will change until there is no choice but to be mindful of how we live, the things we use, and the food we eat.
No.632
>>629I discovered them when I was 12 because I was into anime and flash games and I came across a flash video that had some guy humping some 4chan text and I had to find out who this 4chan guy was since he showed up in several flash videos. Clicked straight into Anime & Manga when I hit the frontpage since it was the first link I saw and it was in my interests.
Would like to believe it hasn't had a big impact on my life, but that's impossible to know without having anything to compare with. I was an awkward loser either way so it probably just sped up the inevitable. I have no regrets and I find that I'm quite a lot more stable than a lot of people who discovered them far later than myself, probably I got used to the world being a mess early on and embraced just enough nihilism to ignore the bad things and just focus on things I do enjoy.
In my later years I've met many a 14-16 year olds on imageboards though I try not to interact much with them as they tend to be a bit of a nuisance and I have no interest in befriending underaged individuals.
No.639
>>629I was 17, almost 18 at the time I first went to that one place. I'd known of them loosely but stayed mostly outside forums of any kind until that time.
>>630>>631I kind of get what he means. The idea that there could be high schoolers and middle schoolers on your board just feels really disconcerting. I like to believe the average user ranges from 18-35 with a median age of 23 or so. That's how I thought of it for the longest time on /a/ and other boards, and I never encountered the teenposting boards until years later because they weren't my interests. It was a horrible shock for me to realise that most people were probably under 18 or barely in college on some boards.
No.640
>>639Yeah, that's easy enough to understand. I rarely posted before I was 19 or so, only in select places. It's important to lurk.
I don't really care for young posters much myself. Not only is it uncomfortable, but they also stick out. They generally use certain word and phrases alongside a lack of punctuation. I'm not sure why it bothers me, but it does. Maybe it's because their posts often scream "I'M NEW!".
No.645
>>629I got into IBs when I was like 13, yet I knew about 4chan way before that because of youtube videos talking about how "crazy" it was and stuff. The first chan I began lurking was 8chan, from there I got into endchan and the like. I know it had an effect on me, but I think it coulda been way worse; I was just a weird kid in a family with some problems and it was the way to spend the time I wasn't at school because my mother wouldn't let me hang out with other kids after school.
I remember that one post at the previous kind board, made by some guy talking about how he has been posting on IBs ever since long ago yet he considers all the time spent in IBs wasted even though the epic lulz and stuff. Thinking about it made me realize the internet is such a waste of time when not used for education or greater purposes. So it's been my effort to cut all superfluous internet usage and get the most out of my time employing the internet for better purposes.
Recently I came across a hard bump in my life and IBs kinda helped me with that because I have no friends at all to talk about stuff. There are some boards that are so sad, pretty sad; it's a comfy sadness tho, and I found some mild solace there. I wish I could help these people. Maybe they just want a friend, but I don't know if I could do that right. We're all together for the ride I guess.
No.646
>>629I'd known about 4chan for a few years before then, but I only started posting regularly when I turned 18. Before that, I'd just stop in quickly and not quite know what I was looking at. I kind of wish I'd started a few years earlier.
No.647
>>646>I kind of wish I'd started a few years earlier.Why? Not sure what it would accomplish.
No.650
>>647I have the feeling that I missed out and also feel like imageboards helped whip me into shape in regard to acting less spergy. I'm an actual autist and even back in high school had next to no social life, and I feel like the harshness of imageboard culture has had a positive impact on me in the long run. Finding /fa/ has helped me dress in a way that makes me feel better about myself, and the way imageboards mock spazzy people has helped me be more self-aware in regard to the way I act. The downside is that there's a kind of innocence I seem to have lost, but I feel like it helped me grow as a person. I'm also at the point now where I can ignore a lot of the groupthink you often get on imageboards.
No.653
>>650I agree with you on that one. I think probably the biggest aspect of it was that an environment with no reservations regarding criticism allowed me to become very self aware very quickly relative to my behavior as a kid. It was like opening my eyes and seeing myself in the mirror for the first time.
No.665
Why do people say it's okay to be autistic? Autism "advocates" keep pushing the idea that autism is anything other than a disease.
>its okaaay to be autistic man, it's just an identity!
>what you want to cure this disease, you must just hate autists!
I am not a valid humans, I am disordered, i not fit in society that means something is wrong with me not with society.
Any advice on how to handle people telling me to "just be myself" when I know that that's wrong?
No.666
>>665It's okay to be autistic. I mean it's a horrible disorder obviously as I am sure you know, but a part of the "it's okay" thing is that people should not harass someone for being autistic. Unfortunately most of the awareness people are doing a shitty job at spreading information about what autism is and there's now people on social media pretending to have autism for clout, but there's people faking all sorts of stupid things like Tourette's and DID, probably also much to the annoyance of people with those disorders.
>>its okaaay to be autistic man, it's just an identity!I don't think I've ever heard anyone call it an identity, but if they did I would assume they have no idea what the fuck autism even is.
>I am not a valid humans, I am disordered, i not fit in society that means something is wrong with me not with society.You are a valid human even though you have struggles. It's true that it may not be good that you don't fit in with society, but it is what it is.
>Any advice on how to handle people telling me to "just be myself" when I know that that's wrong?I used to mask. I used to try hard to fit in. I put great effort into trying to appear normal and not autistic. I was afraid people would find out I was faking everything and not understanding what was going on. Now I don't anymore. It has been exhausting and made me deeply unhappy. Maybe it's only because I am a neet that I have this privilege, but I no longer try to behave normally and unironically "just be myself". I have never been happier. It is pretty obvious I don't quite fit in, but there are still those who want to be my friend (mostly other autistic people), and those who don't we simply just don't talk to each other and that's okay. It makes me happier.
No.696
Every board I go to feels dead and abandoned or just a shadow of its former self. This detracts from discussion as well because theer is less diversity of thought as well.
Any /pol/ board has become mostly a complete echo chamber, even worse than it was before.
Smaller political boards I used to frequent don't exist anymore.
Small hobby boards and fun shitpost boards either don't exist or are completely dead.
It feels as if /kind/ is the only thing left.
This is sad friends.
No.701
>>696It's only getting harder and harder to sustain a niche community without ruining it. There aren't many new people, and the new people are kids that grew up with a very homogenized internet. Not only that, but they've all had tons of exposure to it as well. It really pigeonholes you into using the internet exclusively for direct entertainment. I mean, most of the new blood can't remember a time before say, facebook or even youtube. Not to say they're hopeless, but their view of what the internet is probably very different from yours.
Or at least, that's how I perceived things when I was among other young people.
The imageboard format itself is also fairly niche. I think most people are fine having at the very least a pseudonym attached to any posts they make. Not to mention, the bad press they've gotten through the years.
I'm tired of thinking about this shit. Just don't give up hope. Maybe someday things will get better.
No.702
>>665>Autism "advocates" keep pushing the idea that autism is anything other than a disease.I don't like that mindset either. I think it stems from non-autists who don't understand how bad it is to not instinctively have the social awareness that regular people have as well as autists and their families getting defensive about the condition.
>>666>I used to mask. I used to try hard to fit in. I put great effort into trying to appear normal and not autistic. I was afraid people would find out I was faking everything and not understanding what was going on. Now I don't anymore. It has been exhausting and made me deeply unhappy. Maybe it's only because I am a neet that I have this privilege, but I no longer try to behave normally and unironically "just be myself". I have never been happier. It is pretty obvious I don't quite fit in, but there are still those who want to be my friend (mostly other autistic people), and those who don't we simply just don't talk to each other and that's okay. It makes me happier.I know what you mean. I try to hide my power level to a certain extent, but I stop trying to fit into any social group a long time ago. I don't think it was until after high school that I really started to honestly assess my actual likes and dislikes and realized how much of my opinions were just based on buying into how I felt I was supposed to think.
No.703
>>675>I got into imageboards because they felt irreverent and started hating them because they no longer are. They have as many fucking holy cows as any other place and get just as bitchy when you slaughter them./pol/ is a great example of that. I really miss the early days before everyone started taking everything there at face value. It ended up getting flooded with people who didn't understand that the board was largely trolls trolling trolls and that there was originally a good amount of ideological variety.
No.715
>>713I feel like I should have some sort of higher goal to use my hikkikomori time with, but I've already done most of what I wanted to do. I learnt a bunch of things I was interested in, tested my knowledge as proof of concept, but it doesn't look like I can go any further with it in the practical world. Sadly one person just doesn't have the money to do the kinds of things I would want to do. I feel like I can see something really great, but the gap between myself at my peak and its beginning is too great to cross even for the entire planet.
No.716
>>715You made me curious, what would you do if you had the money?
No.723
>>722
Just try not to think about it.
No.727
>>713Welcome to the hikikomori life.
It doesn't get that much better from here in all honesty, try to keep a wide range of hobbies that will suit your different moods so you don't fall into despair if your one and only hobby doesn't fit what you feel like. It's questionable how long one can truly live as a hikikomori without edging towards the other side, but some individuals do quite well like that long term. The loneliness can be quite crushing for those who are not quite suited for a permanent state of this lifestyle.
No.730
>>727Well, I guess I'll just have to wait and see how it goes.
No.732
>>716There are certain problems in certain branches of physics that haven't been solved because there wasn't any practical application for what the solutions would make possible. It has to do with the theoretical upper limit of how efficiently humans can extract energy from resources available to us. Unfortunately, to go any great amount further than what we have right now would require very destructive releases of energy to be used in large quantities, which is never going to be condoned by anyone with the power and money to do it. In theory, we could use our current technology for quick interstellar flight at a relatively cheap cost, or even just provide really cheap energy for the entire planet, but the losses necessary to get it up to speed, fully developed, and ready for daily use, aren't acceptable to most people and would be stopped at one point or another because of the inherently destructive nature of the technology we have available to do it with, which is the only technology that could even come close to fulfilling our needs unless a major breakthrough in our understanding of thermodynamics took place.
No.761
I really enjoy going out for walks at night. It helps to step away from the computer to remember that I'm still human, albeit a strange one.
No.774
>>703Ironically 4chan's /pol/ is now far better at this than any 8chan's /pol/. I guess more people=more diverse viewpointsAt least /kind/ is still comfy.
No.777
>>761I like them too, it's so calm, less people, less cars, less noise…
No.785
I was wondering what had happened to Kind for awhile now, since I was getting a privacy error when trying to go on the old host and was scared about going on it. Didn't realize the site had moved. Great to see it back again!
No.797
>>785Yeah, I'm glad I was able to find it as early as I did.
No.849
I'm tired of being a wagefag.
No.855
>>854I plan on going over to Urbit and maybe hosting my own boards at some point. It seems kind of complicated, but I tried running a comet to try it out for free and didn't have many problems figuring out what I was doing. The people involved seem a lot less retarded on average than people on the traditional Internet.
As it stands now, the webring is the only place I post anymore. I got burned out on old-school forums more than a decade ago.
No.860
>>858That's quite a peculiar theory, have you perhaps saved it? I'd like to think it's more due to over socialization since of how you're brought up, then educated from birth to adolescence.
>>855I've tried that when it was still beta, how good is it now and is there enough people to form a community of some sorts?
No.862
>>860>I've tried that when it was still beta, how good is it now and is there enough people to form a community of some sorts?There's a publicly open faux-imageboard on there, albeit a slow one and without the usual imageboard features. I imagine it's only going to get better over time. I've heard there's even a Twitter clone available on there now, but that's not really something that interests me.
No.871
>>862Hmm, then I'll have to buy a separate PC so that I can run just Urbit on that pc. I may have forgotten how to set it up, though. Are you currently using or planning to use it in future due to it's promising future?
>>863Right, thank you. I'll read it tomorrow after I get back home from work.
I'm going to take ashwagandha so that I can calm my nerves down. And hopefully go to bed this early, and wake up really early, too. I've been having a lot of depression strokes from the aforementioned issue.
No.872
>>871>Hmm, then I'll have to buy a separate PC so that I can run just Urbit on that pc.Do you really want to do that? I know that people use single-board computer (although Raspberry Pis aren't considered very good for it), but it's not necessary if you just plan on browsing and posting.
>I may have forgotten how to set it up, though.This guide was what I used:
https://urbit.org/getting-started>Are you currently using or planning to use it in future due to it's promising future?I'm planning to use it in the future. The comet I was using before isn't booting up, but I at least got a taste of what it's like.
No.887
>>872Also, I saw some posts from that Justin Murphy guy on Twitter saying that Urbit has now reached the beginning of the mass adoption stage.
No.892
>>854I feel the same way. Can you recommend me some other nice sites? I honestly don't know where to go anymore.
No.894
>>99I've been thinking about imageboard culture recently a lot. On December 18th some guys from anoncafe organized a multi-imageboard christmas event and it was pretty cool, some people were organizing games, some were streaming movies, some of them were playing music, it was a lot of fun. However, something really catched my attention that day, some dude said:
>This is something we would've never be able to organize back in 8chanAnd I thought about that a lot and it made me feel hope. After witnessing unstoppable drama and image boards dying since 2017 that post made me realise maybe there actually is light at the end of the tunnel. Like mass extinctions and speciation are normal part of nature, maybe periods of instability and dumb drama are part of image boards and after and better times are going to arrive eventually.
I'm glad there's still people hosting imageboards and people participating on them and organizing their projects, as long there's people posting, there will be a better future.
No.895
>>863He implies that the internet is such as it is because of how the underlaying structure works and the interaction of our collective conscious with it.
>>872Thank you.
No.896
>>895No problem. I just now got a planet and can link you to the imageboard group and a board for discovering other boards if you want. It's hard to find boards unless someone who's there already, since it's so decentralized. It's like using the Internet without a search engine, and so you have to rely on invites and word of mouth to find anything.
The Urbit Index group had a board directory, but they apparently took it down after I experimented with Urbit so things don't become too centralized.
No.898
>>896I'll ask you whenever I decide to use Urbit and explore the world there. Now that aside, here's some interesting projects that have been started that you may find noteworthy considering you've been looking for alternative methods of internet communication.
https://sentivate.com/ - sentivate is a hybrid web built to be a viable replacement for the modern web
https://solid.mit.edu/ - Solid is an exciting new project led by Prof. Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of the World Wide Web, taking place at MIT.
No.901
>>900Hopefully this is a good thing, and you meet nicer people.
No.902
>>898To be honest, the details of a lot of this stuff go over my head.
I did hear about that thing from Tim Berners-Lee a while back and found it interesting. The more possible solutions there are to deal with the problems of the current Internet, the better.
No.903
I'm pretty happy these days. Yep, that's about it.
No.905
>>901Thanks. This individual seemed like a narcissist and I have an inclination of unconsciously gravitating towards them, so I'm scared there's going to be more in the future but if there are hopefully I can cut them off sooner. I already know some nicer people. (I just hope I don't "turn" into the narcissist with them, one day. That's another thing I'm scared I may have a predispotion for.)
No.916
It's tiresome to be kind, especially when it feels like the world is very unkind at times. But I will insist and stay in faith.
No.917
>>916I know not everyone has the opportunity to do this, but when I feel myself slipping into unkind behavior I close myself out of all socialization and just bury myself in manga without talking to anyone for days.
No.920
>>892Most of the ones I visit are already friends with this board.
>>854After a week of using nootropics, I can feel that there is some kind of improvement. I feel like I might abuse the heck out of it.
No.933
My friend is ignoring me, and I just want things to be resolved. I don’t understand being this angry over something so trivial.
No.934
>>920>using nootropicsI've never used any, but I'm curious. Any suggestions?
No.957
>>956I live with my family. Even with their assistance, I wouldn't say I'm sustaining my lifestyle. Things are slowly getting worse and worse as all my belongings are old and worn and I can't afford to fix or replace them as they fail. I don't really care that much. If I did, I'd get a job.
While I wouldn't recommend descending to this point, you might want to look into your government's social services or find a job that would allow you to work from home.
No.967
>>957Can't you do something on the side that may give some income? Do you have Social welfare programs where you live, that may help you? Or charities of some sort?
There are social welfare programs where I live, but I'd need to be in a condition where I wouldn't be able to provide for myself and the amount is really low.
>>959Because you're not able to see the other person and if you're running on a pessimistic flow then you'll be creating imaginations that may not come true.
No.968
>>967I probably could do something on the side, but that'd be work. I don't want to work. I can't get assistance because I'm a perfectly healthy man that simply refuses to work.
No.977
>>952
>I had a 'friend' like this who would only bother me when they wanted something.Oh god, the other problem is I've actually been this friend myself too. The guilt from that was probably another reason I was scared to leave this friend sooner. I had a friend before this that ghosted me because she said I was treating her like a "personal chauffeur" because of continuously asking for riders from her. To be fair, since her first reaction to this issue was to disappear and not tell me why until I reached out to a mutual friend to ask about her, then proceed to ghost me again when I thought we arranged a time to meet up so I can apologize and tell her how I'll improve, I certainly tried to communicate my issues with this friend this time first before burning bridges, unlike the previous friend. You can't expect to resolve issues if you never communicate them in the first place. I'm writing this current person off as a narcissist and burning bridges because these patterns of behavior continued, even after I asked them to stop.
>I stopped talking to them and I'm past that point in my life. Nobody needs to waste time on self-centered people and users.Indeed. Glad to see you moved on as well. It hurts to be around people that treat you like you're "seen but never heard". Some people seem to want to just have a friend without having to be a friend. If it's one thing I've took away from these parasitic relationships, it's that I have a higher standard for having ones with people that actually wants to listen to and express interest in what you have to say.
No.986
>>968Have you been doing well as of recently, fren?
No.988
>>986I'm doing okay. How about you?
No.997
>>977>You can't expect to resolve issues if you never communicate them in the first place.You have a point, but I had other issues with this friend as well. I'd always be the one to initiate conversation. Practically every single time. I stopped talking to them and I never heard from them again. Goes to show that if I never offered them anything or if I never talked to them in the first place, there wouldn't really be a relationship. It's been almost 2 years now.
>It hurts to be around people that treat you like you're "seen but never heard". Some people seem to want to just have a friend without having to be a friend. This has been my problem since middle school. I've always had people come to me with their issues, but that's the only thing they came to me with. Never a call to see how I was, just always calling my phone to vent. I don't know, maybe I should really implement your point about telling people how I feel instead of just avoiding it. It's not like people are mind readers.
> If it's one thing I've took away from these parasitic relationships, it's that I have a higher standard for having ones with people that actually wants to listen to and express interest in what you have to say.That's good friendo, I'm glad you're finally raising your standards on how your friends treat you. That's something that we all need to do.
No.1005
>>1002I surely changed, my life has developed greatly the last few years and I'm much happier now than I was then, so that probably has something to do with it. They all apparently still talk to each other regularly, just not to me. When I asked about it, all I got was "just talk to us more".
No.1022
>>1015I wouldn't mind getting rid of a bird as long as I didn't have to kill it first.
No.1024
>>1023You shouldn't let your cat murder those poor birds, put a collar with a bell on it or something
No.1025
>>1022I had the displeasure of killing a couple tiny birds who fell from their nest right next to my door some time ago. I heard that sometimes the parents can still keep feeding them if this happens and tried to keep a lookout for some time but they were too young to survive on their own and two of them were already dead so I decided that it was better for both parties if I just bonked them with a shovel. Now, I did not think that I was squeamish about this kind of stuff but I really feel like something died inside of me when they started to chirp at me with their mouths wide open, clearly waiting for food while all I had to offer them was the cold steel tip of my shovel aimed at their heads.
No.1026
>>1025Yeah, there is no joy in killing. Just emptiness. At least you killed them for a reason.
No.1027
>>1024but then she cant hunt mice…
She doesn't catch many birds in this location, but a whole lot of mice. I don't want to deprive her of her title as the feared mice huntress in the mouse community.
No.1036
>/kind/ - Random Acts of Kindness
No.1043
>>1036Venting threads are a /kind/ mainstay.
No.1050
>>1036To never vent or deal with negative feelings is toxic positivity and to be unkind to yourself. There's also venting too much or indulging too much in a negative feeling and making it worse, but it's important to accept negative feelings as a part of life and deal with them.
No.1065
Everything sucks.
No.1072
>>1071Nothing in particular.
No.1078
>>1075I can't take it easy like this…
No.1081
>>1074If what you're seeking is energy then nootropics such as Bacopa monnieri, Creatine, Rhodiola rosea, Piracetam, L-Tyrosine are some of them.
Now for cognitive improvement are helpful such as; Centrophenoxine, Vitamin D(not kidding), Omega-3s, Theanine, Reishi some of them.
Currently, I'm taking ones for relaxation and multivitamins(because nutritional values of fruits & vegetables have only been dropping) and it's helpful, but if your diet is shit all the nootropics are going to do is just balance the negative effects of your diet. I wonder if you can find the ones I mentioned anywhere near you.
No.1103
>>1102I found a little crevice where I can shove some books. I've decided to put reference books that I probably won't be touching very often in there. More importantly, I've decided to bite the bullet and give away or donate ones that I don't plan on reading again. My storage options are limited, so I don't really have much of a choice if I want to get new books.
No.1118
>>1103My room is actually filled with lots of things, books are one of those things.
That's actually nice, where do you intend to donate some of your less read books? And how big your collection?
No.1122
I think I reached my lowest point today.
I only now realized what it is I lost. I more than deserve all the insults I've gotten through the years. I'm the lowest of the low.
No.1123
>>1118>My room is actually filled with lots of things, books are one of those things. Same, I've got a lot of stuff outside of books taking up space too.
>where do you intend to donate some of your less read books?My library will take them from what I've been told. I just want them to go somewhere where someone will read them. I'll offer some others to family members I think might be interested.
>And how big your collection?It's actually hard to say. I see about ten hardcovers on my bookshelf and maybe seven or eight on my desk. A decent amount of those are too bulky to even fit on the shelves. On top of that, there are a bunch of paperbacks too.
No.1125
>>1122What's going on anon?
No.1127
I don't have any IRL friends any more since all mine graduated. I'm stuck finishing university while they all went off to become real people. Now I talk to them on discord, but I really miss having real people to hang out with. I've tried joining activities and going to my LGS and I'm friendly to everyone, but no-one seems to be a good fit for me to hang with. I just feel lonely IRL. Even though I have friends online to talk to, it feels empty.
No.1128
>>1127I'm grateful that I don't mind not having friends or being able to keep relationships going.
No.1132
I think I am gonna die without ever experiencing what a kiss feels like and it is eating me from within
No.1134
>>1132I doubt things are as hopeless as you make them seem, there's always someone out there for somebody. How old are you if you don't mind me asking? If you're under 30 then you shouldn't be dwelling like that.
No.1135
>>1134I'm 24 but I never go outside where there is women, most of my interests are for men so I never really got a chance of having something romantic.
I dunno, I feel like even if I am 24 now, whatever I'll get as I go older will be less romantic and more the interests of someone else. I feel like the kind of love that is portrayed in fiction is nothing but unreal
No.1136
>>1135It sounds like there is nothing stopping you from socializing, and potentially getting a partner except your attitude. Focusing too much on getting women will disappoint you too much like this, just live your life with an open heart, and give yourself the chance to socialize. It's okay if you have interests that males are primarily interested in, so long as you can be an engaging listener, relatable, and a decent person, you can bond with women. Love in fiction is definitely not accurate to real life, don't expect that, you're going to be severely let down. Socializing more is the first step to setting reasonable expectations, and learning how to be better at relating to people.
No.1140
>>1136>It sounds like there is nothing stopping you from socializing, and potentially getting a partner except your attitudeI wouldn't say it is my attitude, I think it's more the fact that most places I regularly go to have not many women in the first place, to not say there's none.
>Focusing too much on getting women will disappoint you too much like this, just live your life with an open heart, and give yourself the chance to socialize. I do try to socialize, I just don't think I'll find a girl for me out there
>It's okay if you have interests that males are primarily interested in, so long as you can be an engaging listener, relatable, and a decent person, you can bond with womenI know about this, I talked to girls (real) on discord. But it honestly is fairly tiresome having to go to a special place where you might find a girl you may like and maybe even then she just ghosts you or makes you feel worse than you felt before because she just doesn't understand how much you care of her
I dunno, I feel like I'll never have anything, but what plays the biggest part is the fact that I just don't wanna go outside.
I wish I was dead
No.1141
Pizza is just too good. I ate half of what I estimate to be a 20" pizza earlier. Now I feel bad and can't shit.
No.1149
>>1143I love Fatchouli. You know you've lost it when you eat pizza straight from the freezer.
No.1150
I hate to say something so un/kind/, but I really hate animals. Or maybe it's their owners. I'm tired of living in a house that smells like piss and shit. I'm tired of having to inspect "clean" dishes for animal hair. I'm tired of having cat hair on the counters used for preparing food. I'm tired of the puddles of dog slobber and the occasional patch of dried piss on the floor.
Why couldn't we have fish or frogs. You know, stuff that keeps their filth contained. I'm so fucking tired of it. Why do people get animals that they aren't willing to take proper care of.
No.1151
>>1150It sounds like you hate having pets, not animals. I think it's okay, I wouldn't want any pets either and don't really see the appeal.
No.1153
>>1151Yeah, that sounds about right. I like em when I don't have to deal with the negatives.
No.1160
I'm not exactly sure what my problem is, I think I have severe control issues and anxiety issues. I dwell on a lot of problems, or potential problems, and it can overwhelm me to the point of tears at times. When I see, or consider someone doing something I find wrong, abhorrent, problematic, or it in some way is against what I consider "right", and it reminds me of some larger issue that is out of my control, it overwhelms me. I don't know why my brain does this, or how I can get over it. Like I'll see someone do something I don't like, and it'll spiral into this larger issue I have in my mind, and I'll break down. I hate doing this because it doesn't help me in any way, it just triggers me to be upset for a few minutes. I can't stop thinking about abstract issues I have no control over, and it keeps demoralizing me. I wouldn't even consider myself an emotional person, just more paranoid than average, which probably has something to do with it.
No.1161
Is it normal to become more emotional as you get older? I tear up all the time now and am turning into a complete wuss.
No.1166
>>1161Personally I have noticed quite a few changes as I grew older. Violence in media is something I dislike more and more, no matter if in video games, anime, books, manga, and so on. Furthermore I got more sensitive to the cold and the heat. Additionally I yearn for silence even more than before and have the urge to go out into nature. On top of that I taste food more intensive and music sounds more intensive too. At last I care less and less regarding being alone.
Emotionally I changed a lot too, but I rarely tear up though. I wonder how many changes actually have something to do with age, I think experience also does a lot and my doctor says my depression is getting weaker.
No.1169
>>1166>Violence in media is something I dislike more and more, no matter if in video games, anime, books, manga, and so on.I still enjoy violent media, but at the same time I get more affected by other things than I used to be. I used to watch Nexpo videos sometimes, but the real-life incidents would leave me drained thinking about how hellish life can be for people and how much suffering there is in the world. I kind of shy away from true crime and things like that nowadays, although it's still something I have morbid curiosity for. Even fictional stories can affect me. When I was younger, I was a bit more callous and emotionally distant. I wouldn't say I'm always empathetic, but I'm definitely more than I used to be.
It's not always negative things that get me tearing up. Seeing positive things or happy endings can too, even innocuous things that remind me of the past. I think that's almost more embarrassing.
No.1170
>Additionally I yearn for silence even more than before and have the urge to go out into nature.
I used to have music on constantly and was always looking for stuff to listen to, but now I'd rather have it quiet a lot of the time. I used to be able to listen to death metal or whatever while doing something else, but now I find it hard to concentrate on whatever I'm doing. In addition to that, music seems a lot more special to me when you're not just using it to avoid silence.
>Emotionally I changed a lot too, but I rarely tear up though.
Now that I think about it, I think part of the reason I tear up is not only becoming more emotional but having watery eyes in the first place due to allergies. I'm just glad I've never had anything happen in public, but at least it wouldn't be misleading to use that as an excuse.
>I wonder how many changes actually have something to do with age,
I've read changing hormones can have an affect on people's emotions, but I'm not even 30 yet.
>I think experience also does a lot
That sounds about right.
No.1201
Going through something similar to
>>1154 right now, except for the wanting to be homeless/struggle part. I'm on my computer all day everyday, learning and coding stuff. I'm quite enjoying this but I know I can't stay like this forever, eventually I'll have to stop being a hikkiNEET and get a job to sustain. Currently in the middle of applying for abroad studies, hoping to start life anew there. But I'm still afraid I will chicken out of that too, much like I did in the last year of college when faced with having to get an internship. I'm scared of stepping out of my comfort zone, worried that I won't get back to it if I do. I'm a very cowardly person when it comes to life decisions and social interactions.
No.1207
>>1203>>1199>>1202I wish it didn't have to be like this.
No.1208
>>1207Let's just be happy for nenmin. I'm glad he can take it easier now.
No.1209
>>1208I know, as sad as this is at least nenmin will be happier now.
No.1214
Hearing about this site shutting down, and realizing I've never heard about it before makes me think how late to the game I really am. I'll never get to experience the indie web at it's height, I just have to scrounge around for whatever communities are still holding out and aren't a total dumpster fire. My introduction to this entire side of the web, Rainchan, has been dead for longer than I've known about it. I've found some good sites, a Haibane Renmei forum that's been going sense 2003, or alt chans like this and Wirechan that aren't filled with constant 4chan level cringe, and blogs and personal sites are of course still going strong. But everywhere I get this feeling of things being in their waning years. I run into dead links and sites that don't work. People reminisce about dead forums I've never heard of, communities move to Discord and give up their independence. I can't imagine trying to convince other people to bother going deeper into the web than social media. I miss something that i never experienced.
No.1216
>>1214Imageboards are only dead once nobody cares to run them. It's always sad to see them go, but imageboards are kind of transient by nature. It's all part of the charm, and there isn't a replacement for it. I don't think the format will die so long as people can run their own websites in some way or another.
I'd recommend you explore more sites. Maybe you can find more places you like. Just be courteous and have respect for sites regardless of their contents.
As for all the posts about Kakashi Nenpo here, I thought I'd share /kind/ with my friends from nen. They were pleasant to post with on nen, and /kind/ has some key similarities that I thought they might appreciate.
No.1219
>>1214In a couple years you'll be reminiscing about a small long standing community that someone else has never heard about.
You don't really have to convince anyone to seek it out. Those who are interested will generally seek it out on their own, and those who aren't should remain on the big social media sites where they fit in and feel comfortable.
No.1252
Apparently the family dog died. It's sad, but I'm not horribly devastated by it. He had a peaceful death receiving affection. I'm sure he wouldn't have it any other way.
I've been through a lot with the little bastard. I'll miss him.
No.1274
>>1252I'm sorry to hear that, losing a pet always sucks.
No.1299
When I was 14, me and my friend bullied a 12 year old Chinese girl who lived on our street for a few days and she told her mom. Her mom and the girl came over to the house and the mom demanded I apologise for calling her kid a chinky and shoving her onto the ground. The girl said she wanted to spank me after I apologised and my mom made me take my jeans and underwear off and the girl spanked me. My mother failed as a parent that day by putting me through that humiliation and she will never be forgiven.
No.1301
>>1299That was extremely mean of you, and it doesn't seem like you have learned anything from it either.
No.1302
>>1301They made me strip naked and let her spank me even though I apologised to her. That was fucked up
No.1303
>>1302Racism is inexcusable, gross.
No.1304
>>1303Forcing someone to strip naked and making them lie over someone's lap for a spanking is worse. That's too much just because they were racist. And the girl was younger than me so it was inappropriate for her to see me naked
No.1306
>>1299>and she will never be forgivenShe's your mum, how can you say this? I don't understand people who don't love their mums.
No.1307
>>1306She made to strip naked and let a girl spank me. She doesn't deserve to be forgiven.
No.1308
>>1307I would spank you too, maybe you will get sense.
No.1309
Let's take it easy. Nothing good's going to come out of arguing about this. Nobody's opinion is going to change. It certainly won't change what happened.
No.1310
>>1308She had no right to see me naked and spank me.
No.1311
Oh wow it sure smells like kissu in here
No.1313
>>1252That sucks. Hopefully he's at peace now.
>>1303>actually believing that in 2022Sure is Reddit in here.
>>1306I don't get it either. I used to just assume that those people were just ungrateful pieces of garbage, but now I'm more open to the idea that they could have genuinely had a bad upbringing. But at the same time, even loving and well-intentioned parents can make mistakes. I have a hard time discerning petulant whiners looking for sympathy from people who actually were brought up by bad parents.
No.1314
The amount of people defending abuse after
>>1299 is disappointing. Imagine the humiliation that comes with being spanked in front of strangers, butt naked, by a younger girl. Now think, does that punishment really fit quite normal bullying? Even considering the request of the girl is absurd to me, she should have made her kid apologize, and punished him herself; revenge doesn't belong in punishment.
No.1315
Refrain from making non-constructive replies in the vent thread. I don't want pointless shitflinging. You can find that anywhere.
It's fine to take issue with something someone says. If you decide it's worth replying to, write something worth considering. Don't just call them a nigger or or simply say something is bad.
I won't make a rule, but there's no point in escalating things when someone just wanted to bitch about something.
>>1314Yeah, I agree with this sentiment more or less. Not to say he was in the right by any means, but not only is the punishment humiliating, it's not even that good of a punishment. Parents ought to be the ones doing the punishing. Letting other people do it for them doesn't build respect for the parent. Instead you get a little asshole kid.
I don't know how his upbringing was otherwise, but I understand his feelings. Maybe he'll move on like I did.
No.1332
>>1202I would be able to put up a backup site for nen as well, but like this anon
>>1214 I've never heard of that site before, so my options are limited
No.1348
I have no game with the ladies.
Got the phone number of a fairly good looking girl but I fucked up and what was supposed to be a one night stand became a vapid job interview that lead to nothing.
Should improve my game but I never go outside
No.1349
>>1348Why bother with such hollow things? If all you want is to get off, just masturbate.
Always seemed like a waste of time to me.
I've always been quick to break things off with girls when I lost interest. Sexual interactions just make me feel empty if it's not with someone I have actual feelings for. I don't even try these days.
No.1350
>>1349I never had sex and she looked fairly good. Wanted to know how holding a piece of meat felt like, but I guess it's not happening for now
>I've always been quick to break things off with girls when I lost interest. Sexual interactions just make me feel empty if it's not with someone I have actual feelings for. I used to be like you, but then I had a fairly bad experience with my previous relationships so I can't see women as anything else as holes to fuck. I wish I could "fall" for a girl again but it is not happening
No.1351
>>1350Ooyodo is such a cute
No.1366
>>1365One of those days, eh?
No.1367
I'm so alone. I've never felt this bad in my life, and I've been through some really horrible things. This takes the cake though and I've never been so close to giving up. The loneliness and hopelessness is killing me. I can only deal with so much, people keep telling me how strong I am but everyone has a breaking point. I'm so very tired, my only motivation to get better was the love of my life and now they're gone. Now I am alone and I don't know if I'll ever find someone else. I'm so scared and tired.
No.1371
>>1367> my only motivation to get better was the love of my life and now they're gone.What happened?
No.1372
I think my biggest regret about rarely going outside these days is that I miss out on a lot of the natural smells outside. Especially times after it rains or just chilly mornings, usually in Autumn.
I used to go outside a lot when I was younger. Now I don't leave the house other than visiting my dad and going on late night walks.
It's just one of the small things in life that I love that are so easy to forget.
No.1376
>>1372I have that issue as well. When I lived in the country I could just go for a walk whenever I wanted but now I would have to drive to a forest or a natural park and I don't have the energy to do that just to go for a walk.
I like the idea of hunting because then you are going out there to do something and the nature of it means you will be quite involved with the surroundings but I don't really want to kill animals for that. I thought about shooting them with tranquilizers but they aren't as cool as they are in media, they actually take a very long time to work, don't knock the animal out and you have to be quite close to use them.
There aren't many interesting places to go for walks in my area anyway though.
No.1377
>>1376You could just take photos of animals, you know?
No.1382
>>1378>just Kangaroos, rabbits and foxesI'd really enjoy getting to see a kangaroo in the wild. Funny how the grass is always greener on the other side. I've never seen a kangaroo in the wild, but if I'm out hiking and see moose it's more or less another day in the park. Don't get me wrong, those are nice moments, but it's easy to take them for granted.
>smuggle some leopards and moose into the public parksHow about this? I'll trade ya some moose for some roos and if we can find another anon to pitch in the leopards, we could really make a go of this, heh.
No.1383
>>1375The area I live in kind of sucks for that. Too much traffic, too developed. I walked to the store maybe a month ago, and people just don't care about pedestrians.
I can drive of course, but I prefer walking when it's possible.
Nothing to be seen either. All the animals come out at night when there's nobody around.
I'm also just not good at handling strangers these days. Feels like I might get harassed for being a weirdo or something.
>>1376Yeah, I know the feeling. Living in the country is really nice for that. It's nice for a lot of things.
I used to live in a major tobacco growing area. Around harvest season, they'd take all the tobacco and cure it. It always smelled really nice and the smoke looked neat.
There were also a lot of trails and other things to explore.
There's a trail where I live now, but it's mostly for people to get exercise. There's mostly just small critters at night. Plenty of deer toward the end of the trail though.
No.1384
>>1378Reminds me of Canberra
No.1395
>>1387I really feel no hope, your kind words mean a lot but. I just have nothing to live for, he was everything to me. Other people might like me in the future, but I'm already 29 and I put everything I had into this guy. Dunno if I'll ever love anyone else. No job, no family or friends. I'm completely alone now.
No.1401
>>1379Anon, staying with an abusive person is not being strong. You need a network of real friends and maybe a better partner. I'm not going to tell you it's not going to be painful, because it will be, but you have to realise that it's not your fault, and that you couldn't have fixed them. You have to realise that you are better off without a toxic relationship like that. Please don't give up. Even if it doesn't feel like that, things will pass and you will always have people who care about you and love you, even if you think there are none right now. Roll the dice until you get a nat 20, please, please don't give up!
No.1402
>>1135Stop looking for relationships and they will come to you. Treat woman like you would your male friends (not exactly the same way but similar). Don't go with the intent of dating, just go with the intent of meeting new people. Don't look for love, look for female friends. This increases your chances to get a girlfriend.
And I mean it, stop thinking about relationships with women COMPLETELY right now. Just think about friendships. Treat EVERY single woman that you get to know, even if they are attractive or you feel some feelings towards them, just like you would treat a normal acquintance. Interact with them, and you will find someone eventually.
No.1405
I had a strange dream last night. It was actually pretty mundane, but generally my dreams are really weird.
It was uncomfortable, as they tend to be, for reasons different from the norm. It wasn't violent or chaotic. No, it involved what used to be the struggles of my everyday life which I've found myself running from. Failure, and the shame that comes with it. Despite fleeing from it, I've found myself becoming the embodiment of that very thing. By being unable to accept failure, I've only managed to fail myself.
Time and time again, I've found myself paralyzed before it. Unable to put forth effort while wearing a facade of indifference. After all, it is impossible to lose the game you don't play, and for me winning isn't worth the risk of loss.
I'm surprised I wasn't able to see it before.
No.1448
My enemies are winning and I'm losing to my own weaknesses as well.
No.1459
I started feeling really irritable and restless. I'm just tired of everything I think. I have no particular reason to be pissed off.
No.1493
I'm tired of having no friends but every time I attempt something, they just end up fizzling away.
I don't wanna be alone but I can't help but think it's all I can do
No.1516
>>1493Yeah, I know the feeling. I don't really care at all now. I never had friends interested in the same things I was, so it's not a big deal.
It seems you still meet people. Hopefully you'll find someone worth your time.
No.1517
I'm dreading my birthday. It's my 21st and there's a decent chance that a few people will want to celebrate it with me. Maybe it's stupid to complain about, but the truth is, I've gone out enough times to fit on my fingers this year. The sudden attention will probably be overwhelming when I haven't really talked to anyone in a long while. I'd rather just stay inside, alone…
No.1521
>>1517I know the feeling. I hate celebrating my birthday, or receiving gifts in general. The truth is most people want to celebrate other peoples birthdays out of pure selfishness. It doesn't matter how many times I tell them I don't want anything, I literally beg not to get Christmas presents every year, they always do because it makes them feel bad not to do anything, never considering how it makes me feel.
No.1523
>>1517Tell them, I always do that.
It's your day, so just tell them that on your bday you don't want to celebrate and prefer to just relax and do nothing.
No.1533
>>1521I tell my family the same. It's a bit silly when nobody cares about my feelings when I say I don't want any gifts. They talk about how they'll feel bad if they don't give me anything, but I have no needs or wants. I just feel bad when I get gifts, it's a waste of money and it's producing more junk. If I need something I can go buy it. If I don't need something then what use do I have for it? I am a simple man. Getting things I don't need and won't use to satisfy a "need" to give something is just wrong… They should be happy they don't have to give me anything.